tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post3203713995702741156..comments2013-01-26T12:03:57.781-08:00Comments on Mr. Rottens Neighborhood: Rollbacks for RosesJohnieRottenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09556383138019987399noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-22506939215825319742010-01-08T17:42:10.676-08:002010-01-08T17:42:10.676-08:00Hey JR? Did you already go over on how to soften a...Hey JR? Did you already go over on how to soften and supple your horse in preparation for getting to rollbacks and working them off the rail? I wasn't sure if it had already been discussed.<br /><br />Rose knows her cues, gives to leg pressure very well, we're working on our left lead(you knew that. My problem with her is that she's a very prancy individual and she tends to get really fast and choppy in the canter/lope. We have to rate a lot. It's been getting better though with our circle work as she's starting to relax and stay at the same speed longer and longer. We're even getting enough relaxation to get hour head and neck relax and dropping down.<br /><br />One of these days (warmer days) I'm going to shoot some video and send it to you and maybe you would be nice enough to look at it and let me know what we need to work on? LOL! It's just that they say a picture is worth a thousand words and I figure video would be better than picture anyday. I sure as hell can't come to AZ. And I don't think it would be feasible to fly all of you over here LOL!rosesr4evrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603995174237814163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-54653513160121083662010-01-08T16:43:01.687-08:002010-01-08T16:43:01.687-08:00JR
This is a great topic.
I love your blog.
C...JR<br /><br />This is a great topic. <br /><br />I love your blog. <br /><br />Can you do a post on when you should discipline your horse and why and how. We have a guy in our barn that thinks he knows everything and never leaves his horse alone Che went to a Parelli clinic and now he thinks he is a horse Gawd! He put out a business card calling himself a natural horseman and a natural horse trainer. Yet his horses walk all over him. We showed him your blog and he showed some interest in what you have to say. Maybe, just maybe he will listen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-86810978027965249052010-01-07T20:17:33.897-08:002010-01-07T20:17:33.897-08:00JR -
Thanks for the clarification. We will try t...JR -<br /><br />Thanks for the clarification. We will try this on Sunday. Whoopy was started this summer, but rating at a trot is something we need to work on, so that first, rollback second, or third, depending on how he and I are feeling. He's a baby and I'm a coming off an over-hot OTQH to a baby-marshmellow, first time trainer. It's an adventure. Thanks for the information.Jennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03254562024294892312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-5055663550585747382010-01-07T19:23:35.054-08:002010-01-07T19:23:35.054-08:00Aw, blushes. I get it Roses. I totally get it. Bec...Aw, blushes. I get it Roses. I totally get it. Because when I was reading it and trying to visualize it and make sure it made sense... It didn't at first. I had the legs and rein cues and everything confused. Care to guess how many times it took me to figure it out and flip the light switch on? <br /><br />My riding as far as reining horses goes, let's not go there. Please, let's just not go there. I know my limitations. <br /><br />Paul- Welcome aboard! It's always great to hear from others when the methods being explained make sense to them and the benifits are positively realized in a ride or two.Cut-N-Jumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03603347619547454296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-62124738009241970402010-01-07T09:59:02.961-08:002010-01-07T09:59:02.961-08:00Yay!! Pics!!!
Thank you JR. And tell your lovely ...Yay!! Pics!!!<br /><br />Thank you JR. And tell your lovely wife, she's the best!!rosesr4evrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603995174237814163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-54185038030777236472010-01-07T09:31:49.279-08:002010-01-07T09:31:49.279-08:00Great explanation JR!Great explanation JR!kestrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03253025366100154732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-5759571919236293492010-01-07T08:51:36.063-08:002010-01-07T08:51:36.063-08:00Thank u for joining reinerpaul.
Roses. We are do...Thank u for joining reinerpaul. <br /><br />Roses. We are doing the photos this weekend. We will put a link to that gallery on the blog.JohnieRottenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09556383138019987399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-81647191417734597752010-01-06T16:38:36.946-08:002010-01-06T16:38:36.946-08:00Thank you JR!!! Yay!! Rollbacks!
I like the way y...Thank you JR!!! Yay!! Rollbacks!<br /><br />I like the way you have broken it down into steps that will be easy to follow. It would really help to have visuals of each step. Maybe CNJ could photograph or video each sequence? I know...Women! We're never satisfied LOL. I just think it would help soo much to actually see what each step looks like and how the horse and rider should be positioned. It's hard to tell if you're doing it right, if you've not ever done it before. <br /><br />Rosie gets kinda "sticky" in our turn arounds and she tends to rush at the lope. One of my goals is to get her to lope circles quietly and on a somewhat loose rein. I guess you could say we need to work on our "rate" LOL! She also tends to stop with her front end instead of her hindquarters, I guess I need to work on me for that.<br /><br />Thanks again, JR, for a great topic!! Keep 'em coming. Who knows? If I can utilize some of this and do a good job in applying it, I might just show Rosie as a reiner! HA HA HA!! Wouldn't that be a trip?rosesr4evrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603995174237814163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-900715082697302612010-01-06T14:30:01.239-08:002010-01-06T14:30:01.239-08:00Hi JR
I have been reading your blog for a while n...Hi JR<br /><br />I have been reading your blog for a while now and I am always lookingforward to your new training posts. I have been showing reiners for almost 45 years and find your methods refreshing. I showed only at the amateur level and have worked with a lot of big names over the years. Only a few of those did not bit up their horses, rather they would do all of the work from the horses backs like you have mentioned. <br /><br />I like the fact that you let the horse finish the circles and turns on their own. That is the only way that the horse will develope any sense of confidence going forward or into a turn. <br /><br />Thank you for the valuable insight and knowledge that you share with us. By the way I like the website and I like that colt Mondo. <br /><br />Regards<br /><br />Paulreinerpaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09727553145972073481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-67370136615589530852010-01-05T23:45:44.969-08:002010-01-05T23:45:44.969-08:00Yay!!! Rollbacks. JR, I know that you explain thin...Yay!!! Rollbacks. JR, I know that you explain things very well for people to understand. I can get most of what you're describing in my mind's eye. I think it would be grrreat if you could post some pics or videos of exactly what you're doing step-by-step. It can be really difficult to know if what you're doing is correct if you don't have visual. I know, I know...us women, we're never happy. But I really would like to get the most out of this particular tutorial.<br /><br />Oh and thank you for doing this post!!! I love it!!rosesr4evrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15603995174237814163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-32598301385705087122010-01-05T15:04:08.741-08:002010-01-05T15:04:08.741-08:00Hi Jenn
We use the term rate to mean a consistant...Hi Jenn<br /><br />We use the term rate to mean a consistant speed in this instance. You may hear someone say that they want the horse to rate off of a cow and all that means is that they want the horse to match the speedof the cow. We will also ask the horse to rate off of the rider when the rider is posting etc.<br /><br />As far as to when I teach a horse to do this. I usually teach them to do this within the first couple of weeks that I start them under saddle. It is a good way to teach them forward impulsion. We start softening them fromthe first day that we get on them. <br /><br />Feel free to email me when you start working on this if you have any questions. You can alsopost your questions as well. Thank you. JRJohnieRottenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09556383138019987399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4916222985378902903.post-49145079444510201272010-01-05T12:26:30.876-08:002010-01-05T12:26:30.876-08:00Ok, I think I get this. I have two questions, tho...Ok, I think I get this. I have two questions, though. First, for those of us who may be new to the terminology, what is the definition of "rate," as you use it here. Second, is this an appropriate for a horse started under saddle in the last year, assuming they have basic steering and stop? Thanks for some great information. We may try this at the arena this weekend.Jennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03254562024294892312noreply@blogger.com